[Clubber Lang]

just out of interest, my mates running 1ml tren-a with 1ml test prop and as thinking about dropping in some winny to harden up alittle. Its his 1st tren-a and test-p cycle and the results hes got are pretty amazing, wasnt expecting what i saw when he showed me his condition. Anyway, it got me thinking, would a high dose of Prov, maybe 100mg ED achive more than a oral winny dose of 50-75mg in terms of hardening up? Or am i getting my wireds crossed with what winny & prov can do?

thanks

[bert.edge]

ive used both winny and prov (seperatly, for now) and my condition isnt really "cut" by any stretch but i found prov at 50mg in the mix not to really help, but winny at 30mg a day really hardened my up. Strength was crazy on it too. <br><br>Gonna up winny this time round to 75mg for a little while i think <br>

[Irish Beast]

I found proviron to be a good hardener at 50mg per day. Cant vouch for winny though

[tomlet1]

i havn't used winny, but when i have used prov it really hardens me up at even 25mg ED, 50mg ED is best for me though.

[tac]

winni should beat the prov hands down, IMO - although the prov has the added anti-e benefits so the best course of action IMO would be to add both. Tell him to add both at 50mg oral per day

prop/tren/winni is the best cutting/body recomp stack in the world IMO

[Clubber Lang]

should hopefully be seeing my mate later and one question i need to ask if hes near the end of his Tren-a & Test-prop cycle or has finished it, can he continue to just run oral winny on its own for 5/6 weeks @ say 50mg ED? Or isnt there much point in running winny on its own and should save his money?

thanks folks

[Baywatch]

It's all about getting that bf right down and dropping all water, neither will make your muscles harder

A combo of them both, with super low bf and minimal water retention will create that illusion

[Clubber Lang]

Baywatch, on 22 November 2009 - 02:34 PM, said:

It's all about getting that bf right down and dropping all water, neither will make your muscles harder

A combo of them both, with super low bf and minimal water retention will create that illusion

his BF% is quite low, the tren-ace has really done a good job of helping to reduce his fat levels.

he really wants to run a winny cycle, but i dont know if its worth it if hes just going to run winny on its own?

should have ran winny from the start with his tren & test-prop, but it was his 1st experience with tren so was probably best not to add too much to the cycle this time round.


Also, on a seperate matter, when taking say 75/100mg of Proviron, is it best to take the dose all at once or to split it?

This post has been edited by Clubber Lang: 22 November 2009 - 03:15 PM

[Pip]

Split the dose pal otherwise you will end up with a lob on. Its quite uncomfortable.

I agree with the effectiveness of winny only when bf is low, that is if you want visible change.

[Clubber Lang]

Pip, on 22 November 2009 - 03:53 PM, said:

Split the dose pal otherwise you will end up with a lob on. Its quite uncomfortable.

I agree with the effectiveness of winny only when bf is low, that is if you want visible change.

just split the dose AM and PM or maybe lunch time and early evening, 6hrs apart?

[Pip]

Clubber Lang, on 22 November 2009 - 04:06 PM, said:

just split the dose AM and PM or maybe lunch time and early evening, 6hrs apart?

I am sensitive. 50mg and the loins twitch. So i used to use a tab every 3 hrs apart or so. You might not be the same.