Jump to content


UGM Meet has been cancelled but happy to meet a few members in the North West / Midlands area for a beer and bite to eat. Just PM me!

IRISH BEASTS CHARITY WEIGHT LOSS
In aid of NSPCC. Has now started! Details in General section


Photo

Interesting article on water vs oil based winstrol


  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic

#1 wrapper

wrapper

    BANNED

  • Elite Member
  • 6,031 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:13 PM

-------------------------------------------
less pain with oil
but outside of that... the other possible answer would be.... nothing
-------------------------------------------
Water based is in a suspension. Meaning you have to shake it around to get an even distribution. Oil based is actually dissolved in the oil, therefore the shaking does not have to be done. Oil based is generally less painful injects than water based as well.
-------------------------------------------
also some say you shouldnt drink the oil based winny... probably mostly cause the oil taste... lol... but meh, i always think in terms of injecting and drink olive oil... so im just covering my bases here
-------------------------------------------
Oil: NO shaking is required as compound is evenly distributed, Little to no pain when injecting, takes a little longer to kick in. cant be orally consumed

Water: REQUIRED to shake well before drawing it for injection, pain when injecting, kicks in faster, can be orally consumed from the vial/syringe.
-------------------------------------------
* Water based can more readily be contaminated with bacteria (as it grows nicely in water if BA content isn't high)

* Oil based will be absorbed more slowly into the body, but the active drug (stanazolol) half life is the same once absorbed

* Water based can be a little more painful, as the water is absorbed more rapidly into the body than oil, and as a result the winny falls out of solution and crystallizes, causing irritation and pain at the injection site. Oil based will also fall out of solution, but a lower rate, so pain level may not be as great. BTW, this assumes equal BA content.

* Results are the same if used consistently and at the same dose.
-------------------------------------------
Water based is really fast acting and does not hold the mix as (suspension), oil is fully mixed and should have some ba in it to help with sterility.
-------------------------------------------
I don't believe there is a difference, just that one is suspended in water, the other in oil.

Just like test suspension, you will get that same kick in your blood stream as you should, with either compound, because its the same chemical structure just held in two different solutions.

If the oil slowed down the process of suspension materials(testosterone especially), then they wouldn't be suspension, as they are meant to act super fast, usually within the hr upon injecting, there is no ester to these products, making them immediate acting, and is as fast deactivating. That's why so many guys, like using Test suspension , or Winny 2x a day, as the half life is hrs.
-------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------
yah, the oil doesnt slow it down at all, no ester.. ultimately they are the same thing, just one injects smoother.
-------------------------------------------
The solvents.
-------------------------------------------
Winny in oil is a solution, and in water it is a suspension technically thatch the difference and I don't think there is a HG version of Winny oil solution and its hard to get Winny to hold in oil above 50mg/ml. But medicinally they are supposed to be equivalent.
-------------------------------------------
Nothing compound wise there the exact same thing.
BOTH can be drank, Both relese times whould be about the same and BOTH will give same gains.
but: water based might have to be shaken a little bit before drawing out from settleing and the water based might sting a bit more from BA/solvent diffrance from the oil based.
-------------------------------------------
your crazy if anything the water based need MORE BA as WATER is harder to be kept steril not the other way around.
but gud luck
-------------------------------------------
I'm going out in the limb here; Water base winny tends to gam in the pin due to the crystals and the oil base does not.Posted Image
-------------------------------------------
* Water based can more readily be contaminated with bacteria (as it grows nicely in water if BA content isn't high) * Oil based will be absorbed more slowly into the body, but the active drug (stanazolol) half life is the same once absorbed * Water based can be a little more painful, as the water is absorbed more rapidly into the body than oil, and as a result the winny falls out of solution and crystallizes, causing irritation and pain at the injection site. Oil based will also fall out of solution, but a lower rate, so pain level may not be as great. BTW, this assumes equal BA content.
* do not drink oil based wont absorb well
* Results are the same if used consistently and at the same dose
-------------------------------------------
Less ba in H20 based can cause contamination easier. H20 based is more painful, since water absorbs faster then oil, so stanz crystalizes in depot, causing irritation and pain at the injection site. Oil based will also fall out of solution, but a lower rate, so pain level may not be as great. Oil based will absorb more slowly in depot but half life is same. Water based stanz is way more affective cuz its fast acting and it being suspended in water lets it be absorbed quicker. This is why pharm companys only make stanz in water.
-------------------------------------------
One is white, one is not! Posted Image
-------------------------------------------



Echo Supplements - Next Day Delivery, Customer Service a Priority & Great Brands including Reflex Nutrition, Boditronics, MET-Rx, Sci-MX, Gaspari, Optimum Nutrition and many more - the best place for Reflex Instant Whey, MET-Rx Supreme Whey, Boditronics Mass Attack Evo, Reflex Flapjacks, One Stop Extreme, Myofusion Probiotic & Reflex Diet Protein and more - call us on 01753 572741 or www.EchoSupplements.com or visit us in Slough!

#2 mick_the_brick

mick_the_brick
  • Moderator
  • 16,706 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North East - UK

Posted 19 April 2010 - 08:55 AM

Could you link up your sources please mate :)
Bodybuilding is much like any other sport. To be successful, you must dedicate yourself 100% to your training, diet and mental approach.
Arnold Schwarzenegger

#3 wrapper

wrapper

    BANNED

  • Elite Member
  • 6,031 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 19 April 2010 - 10:00 AM

Could you link up your sources please mate :)

I would but in the dbol thread fgb took the url out because of sourcing gear and this is from the same site :-/




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users