[Blue_Lagoon3000]

Right im coming to the end of my cut and im starting to plan my next cycle for later on in the year, will be a long acting cycle as i cba with eod jabs... Was thinking Test E/Tren E/Mast E have done this cycle before and liked it, but only used a very low does of Tren E at 200mg PW. Looking to give Tren a proper try and expect to be using at about 500mg PW.

As im happy with my cutting abilities now im happy to bulk again, will be a lean bulk but pretty heavy with lots of clean food.

Here's what im possibly looking at:

750mg Test E
500mg Tren E
400mg Mast E

Was going to use HGH not sure if i can be bothered with ed shots and tbh at my level i don't need it as i will probably grow like a weed anyway i usually do and the 750mg Test base is 250mg more than ive ran before but defo ready for an increase, a 500mg Test base wont cut it properly in a bulk anymore. May do a Dbol kickstart as ive not done for so long and love the stuff, was gonna use Deca instead of Tren but i don't wanna get too bloated and Deca gives serious bloat as well as results.

Who's run a cycle like this? Any other suggestions?

[mick_the_brick]

I always prefer a ratio of 2:1:1 when running test / tren / mast

so 800mg PW of test / 400mg PW of tren / 400mg PW of mast.

not sure you are ready for the doses mentioned above though TBH.

[Cardiff Muscle]

I was going to say the same Mick. That's nearly 2 grams of gear you were looking to bang per week mate. Unless your of a certain standard both physique and bf wise, do you really need such high doses?

[Blue_Lagoon3000]

Well yeah them doses are a little bit higher than ive ran before, but ive come a long way in the last 5 years and gained 5 stone.

If i do a proper lean bulk like a plan, i'll need higher doese... 500mg Test Base wont blow my socks off any more

Im 6 foot 15 stone, 16 stone before cut.... Here's a recent pic:

[leerc]

why not re arrange it, test tren then onto test mast? i agree the doses are a bit high but its your call

[mick_the_brick]

Upto you Blue what doses you run TBH.

I can only offer my advice.

Ratios above are nice though

[Blue_Lagoon3000]

Yeah will need to have a proper think, its defo time to up the Test dose when on bulks never gone above 500mg on a cycle and don't even get sides any more

Still thinking about the Tren dose etc will make sure its still sensible but i want a big boost as im after 17 stone mass from 15

[Incredible Bulk]

i'm planning my next bulk and i LOVED the size and strength off test/deca/dbol but wondering about tren-e.

is the recovery from tren as bad as deca?

[Cardiff Muscle]

Tren recovery take's a little longer than most. Infact it was around an extra month after PCT had finished for me on Tren e. I still think the dosage's mentioned for a 15/16 stone guy is a bit excessive. I'm over 17 stone right now, have been clean for over a year and only used 500mg (250 sust/250 Tren) to get there last year.

I don't know if its possible, but if you need that much I think you must have developed a hell of a tolerance to the juice as that amount would prolly kill me, lol!

[Blue_Lagoon3000]

Well the type of doses your talking about bud eg 500mg Total pw was less than i did in my 1st cycle over 5 years ago tbh

I do grow well off moderate ish doses but 500mg total for me now wouldn't even touch the sides tbh, my aim is to do a serious bulk with serious amounts of clean food, and smash all PB's in the gym and be a stone heavier than ive ever been before, to do this i'd need to bulk and use a nice dose of gear.

Tbh its not that big an amount really, my training partner is 13 stone odd and uses 1g Test Base with deca dbol etc

But the proposed cycle would blow my socks off... thats what i want lol

[firest0rm]

For me Tren gave more lean gains but Deca was a much more explosive compound in terms of both size gained and strength increases. I did of course run them both together which I enjoyed but gyno is a big concern. Running a comparatively low dose of test and deca now compared to last year and gaining just as well.

For me personally I'll stick to deca for a simple bulk. Cheap and effective. For a lean bulk I'd swap Deca maybe for EQ, perhaps with a little tren in there. For me tren's main benefit during my bulk was keeping my lean which I felt it did fantastically.

[Blue_Lagoon3000]

"For me tren's main benefit during my bulk was keeping my lean which I felt it did fantastically"

Well for the above reason i think i'll do Tren instead of Deca, Im after as little bloat as possible.

[Slight of hand]

your recent pic is photoshopped

[Blue_Lagoon3000]

Do you want a bet? Why the fcuk would i post a fake pic up?

[bert.edge]

Blue_Lagoon3000, on 16 March 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

Do you want a bet? Why the fcuk would i post a fake pic up?

look at your eyes dude! lol