[skinnyjoe313]

Right fella's


im Joe, 19


Height 5'8
Weight 60kg
Neck 36cm
Arms 25cm
Forearms 26cm
Chest 86cm
Waist 82cm
Upper thighs 49cm
Low thighs 36cm
Calves 34cm
ankes 20cm



i know you cant beat your body in to submission. im desprate to grow and iv been told by mick the brick im not eating enough to grow.


this is what im diet looks like at the moment (btw this is an example of a college day not a day off college);

06.20 2 fryed eggs with buttered toasted brown bread
08.35 60g of pasta with 130 of chicken
11.00 60g of pasta with 130g of chicken
13.15 60g of pasta with 130g of chicken
19.30 dinner


i was think of having this shake for breakfast instead of fryed eggs etc

Oats
Pint skimmed milk
Low fat Yoghurt
2x Bananas
Large apple (or two small), peeled and cored
1 x scoop whey
1 x scoop milk protein
Flax seed powder
Cinnamon (optional)



what else would you add to the diet clearly it not enough to grow on. fire surgestion away

[Northern Rocker]

 skinnyjoe313, on 11 February 2010 - 01:49 PM, said:

Right fella's


im Joe, 19


Height 5'8
Weight 60kg
Neck 36cm
Arms 25cm
Forearms 26cm
Chest 86cm
Waist 82cm
Upper thighs 49cm
Low thighs 36cm
Calves 34cm
ankes 20cm



i know you cant beat your body in to submission. im desprate to grow and iv been told by mick the brick im not eating enough to grow.


this is what im diet looks like at the moment (btw this is an example of a college day not a day off college);

06.20 2 fryed eggs with buttered toasted brown bread
08.35 60g of pasta with 130 of chicken
11.00 60g of pasta with 130g of chicken
13.15 60g of pasta with 130g of chicken
19.30 dinner


i was think of having this shake for breakfast instead of fryed eggs etc

Oats
Pint skimmed milk
Low fat Yoghurt
2x Bananas
Large apple (or two small), peeled and cored
1 x scoop whey
1 x scoop milk protein
Flax seed powder
Cinnamon (optional)



what else would you add to the diet clearly it not enough to grow on. fire surgestion away

a typical day for me is something like this
get up
whey shake

40 mins later
shake with milled oats, quark, flaxoil and some choc casein powder

mid morning
granary roll with cooked ham

Lunch
250g grilled chicken in sandwich with granary bread and peanut butter, mustard, salad, tomato etc

Mid afternoon
300g Tuna
milled oats in water as shake down the hatch

pre wo
Whey shake
banana

Pwo
whey shake
instant oats shake

ppwo
grilled turkey steak (300g) basmati rice, frozen veg

mid evening
250g quark with various fruit(kiwis, pineapple etc) and whole oats (unmilled)

Before bed
250g quark with water casein powder and flaxoil

during the day various nuts, walnuts, peanuts (in shell) etc.

[RACK]

http://www.mealplans...g-new-gain.aspx

This post has been edited by RACK: 11 February 2010 - 02:13 PM

[skinnyjoe313]

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This post has been edited by skinnyjoe313: 11 February 2010 - 07:09 PM

[skinnyjoe313]

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This post has been edited by skinnyjoe313: 11 February 2010 - 07:09 PM

[skinnyjoe313]

get up
2 scopps of whey in lime flavoured water


meal one, breakfast
3 boiled eggs, 150g of fine oats with milk in shaker


meal two
roll with beef slices


meal three
130g of chicken with 60g of pasta


meal four
130g of chicken with pasta


meal five
big handful of nuts/seeds


meal six
Dinner - what ever is made


pre bed
quark with handful of nuts

This post has been edited by skinnyjoe313: 11 February 2010 - 10:34 PM

[TREBOR]

 skinnyjoe313, on 11 February 2010 - 07:10 PM, said:

get up
2 scopps of whey in lime flavoured water

meal one, breakfast
3 boiled eggs, 150g of fine oats with milk in shaker


meal two
roll with beef slices


meal three
130g of chicken with 60g of pasta


meal four
130g of chicken with pasta


meal five
big handful of nuts/seeds


meal six
Dinner - what ever is made


pre bed
quark with handful of nuts

You have your breakfast at 6.20 am,i wouldn't bother with the whey first thing it means getting up even earlier,sleep and rest are just as important.

Breakfast whey with a large bowl of porridge or weetabix milk sugar,scambled eggs beans toast,omelette with cheese,ham,shrooms,toms ect. toast.

meal 2,add some salad and more beefto the beef roll bit mayo,piece of fruit,small carton milk or whey shake can rice pudding,packet oatcakes cheese one are very nice,fruit.

meal 3, chicken pasta add some chopped toms cucumber salad,some sort of sauce,instead of pasta have rice or baked pot,couple tins mackrel.

meal 4 as above or as meal 2

meal 5,handful of nuts,milk,piece of cheese more of a snack really.

meal six dinner,home cooked meal is fine as long as its something decent.

Before bed,any combo of,hard boiled eggs,cheese,tins mackrel,pilchards,nuts,cottage cheese,quark,steak.

Looking at the diet you posted it looks very bland dont be scared to add sauce bit mayo seasonings ect.

Quick snack ideas,tinned fish,nuts,milk,cheese,fruit,rice pudding,cheese oatcakes,tuna cottage cheese makes a nice combo for sarnies topping for baked pots.

[skinnyjoe313]

thanks for the help NR Rack Trebor i appeciate it.



but now iv decided to write down what i eat for a few day and post it up in this thread. then hopfuly we can rough workout how many cals etc i eat aday and then make a bulking diet were it's roughly right for me and my goals. i think it's abit of a stab in the dark trying to make the "perfect bulking diet" lol


cheers guys

This post has been edited by skinnyjoe313: 13 February 2010 - 04:15 PM

[francesco totti]

Double your carbs. 60g of pasta is not much. Try cooking around 100g of pasta.

[skinnyjoe313]

Right iv deciuded on this;


meal one
bowl of oats with skimmed milk + 3 unshelled boiled eggs and pint of robbisons

meal two
turkey breast in wholemeal bread, peppers with rocket salad +evoo drisuled onthe turkey

meal three
white fish + 60g of rice and spinich + EVOO

meal four
turkey Breast, 70g of pasta spinich + all drisulled with evoo

meal five
Dinner - whatever is made

meal six (small meal here)
turkey breast with nano's saurce + tin of mixed beans



thoughs, is that any better? do you think thats enough to grow on at 60kg 5'8?

[All4n]

Eat it and you tell us in 4 weeks time. No one can answer the question of how much calories you need joe. You can figure out a rough figure but at the end of the day it's down to trial and error. Just stick to the diet then consider change. Since you've been posting on here and MT have you made any progress? Have you stuck to a diet? What diet?

[Ethan8]

As above mate^^^ you might not grow on 2500cals for example ,some people add 500cals and grow ,some people need to double that ,one thing mate ,dont be surprised if its way more than you'd think .

Stick out a diet same as a you would a training program ,your body will desperatley try to maintain equiblibrium [sp] and you will not notice changes as quick as you like .

Stick to a gameplan mate ,thats what big boys did/do ,see it thru ,make micro adjustments as you learn about your bodys responses which wont be for awhile yet ,optimise your recovery times ,hammer your workouts and eat in a controlled fashion and you wont get fat or atleast not superfat.

Its not lack of cals or lifting determination that stunts people in the early stages mate ,its almost a abundance of every-angle info causing them to go left,right up and down at once ,everyone want a inch on there arms next month but a visible 6 pack the month after that.

If I could start with what I know now I'd be....ummm...bigger! .








......abit

[skinnyjoe313]

 All4n, on 25 February 2010 - 10:24 PM, said:

Eat it and you tell us in 4 weeks time. No one can answer the question of how much calories you need joe. You can figure out a rough figure but at the end of the day it's down to trial and error. Just stick to the diet then consider change. Since you've been posting on here and MT have you made any progress? Have you stuck to a diet? What diet?

 Ethan8, on 25 February 2010 - 11:37 PM, said:

As above mate^^^ you might not grow on 2500cals for example ,some people add 500cals and grow ,some people need to double that ,one thing mate ,dont be surprised if its way more than you'd think .

Stick out a diet same as a you would a training program ,your body will desperatley try to maintain equiblibrium [sp] and you will not notice changes as quick as you like .

Stick to a gameplan mate ,thats what big boys did/do ,see it thru ,make micro adjustments as you learn about your bodys responses which wont be for awhile yet ,optimise your recovery times ,hammer your workouts and eat in a controlled fashion and you wont get fat or atleast not superfat.

Its not lack of cals or lifting determination that stunts people in the early stages mate ,its almost a abundance of every-angle info causing them to go left,right up and down at once ,everyone want a inch on there arms next month but a visible 6 pack the month after that.

If I could start with what I know now I'd be....ummm...bigger! .








......abit

cheers guy great advice repped!!. i'll just stick with it for a while and monitor and adjust when needed.


thanks for the help

[Paracelsus]

 skinnyjoe313, on 25 February 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

Right iv deciuded on this;


meal one
bowl of oats with skimmed milk + 3 unshelled boiled eggs and pint of robbisons

meal two
turkey breast in wholemeal bread, peppers with rocket salad +evoo drisuled onthe turkey

meal three
white fish + 60g of rice and spinich + EVOO

meal four
turkey Breast, 70g of pasta spinich + all drisulled with evoo

meal five
Dinner - whatever is made

meal six (small meal here)
turkey breast with nano's saurce + tin of mixed beans



thoughs, is that any better? do you think thats enough to grow on at 60kg 5'8?

looks like plenty mate

[AnabolicMass]

 Paracelsus, on 01 March 2010 - 03:49 AM, said:

looks like plenty mate

Doesn't look like enough to me. Although everyone is different. Joe, don't be afraid to add in some sauces etc and it's okay to include a little bit of junk now and again, as long you are taking in a surplus of calories you will grow. The quality of calories will determine how much of that weight gain is muscle/fat/water.